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AtariYinzer New Tinkerer Connellsville, PA -------- Joined: Nov 8, 2021 Posts: 15 Likes: 6 |
Dec 4, 2021 - #1
Does anyone know of a good video or instructions for tearing down and cleaning a SuperDrive floppy?
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Daniel Hansen Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 29, 2021 Posts: 181 Likes: 142 |
Dec 4, 2021 - #2
For the external case teardown, iFixit has it: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Apple+3.5+Drive+External+Floppy+Drive+Teardown/92324
For cleaning, @Branchus of course: Liked by KingDingus |
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AtariYinzer New Tinkerer Connellsville, PA -------- Joined: Nov 8, 2021 Posts: 15 Likes: 6 |
Dec 4, 2021 - #3
Thanks! Those are good for the 800k drive but I'm looking for something on the FDHD (SuperDrive).
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fehervaria Tinkerer North Germany -------- Joined: Sep 23, 2021 Posts: 160 Likes: 171 |
Dec 4, 2021 - #4
Here is a video about both of the 800K and the FDHD (1.44MB) and cleaning of them.
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Elemenoh Active Tinkerer Bay Area -------- Joined: Oct 18, 2021 Posts: 428 Likes: 415 |
Dec 4, 2021 - #5
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ScutBoy Administrator Northfield, MN USA -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 356 Likes: 342 |
Dec 4, 2021 - #6
@JDW has a good video on YouTube.
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Daniel Hansen Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 29, 2021 Posts: 181 Likes: 142 |
Dec 4, 2021 - #7
FDHD Technical Procedures Manual (PDF) Liked by ScutBoyandfehervaria |
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JDW Administrator Japan -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 2,534 Likes: 1,982 |
Dec 4, 2021 - #8
The SuperDrive terminology refers to the 1.44MB version floppy drive, as opposed to the 800K and 400K drives which came before. The overall procedure for the 800K is very similar to the 1.44MB though. In the video below, I show the SuperDrive disassembly, compare Molykote lubrication (basically what the stock lube was) to SuperLube, show how to replace the ejection gear, then reassemble. In that video, I found that a guy in Italy made a very high quality gear. It works well. More recently, I found that Kay Koba's (Japanese) gears are even better (smoother to the touch and pretty much flawless under a microscope), so people might want to check those out now, although there's nothing wrong with the Italian gear technically.
SuperDrive teardown & lube & gear replacement: Italian Gear: 2 Gears Apple Macintosh 800K 2MB SONY Floppy Drive MP F51W F75W OMRON MAC Gear | eBayThis little gear is the exact copy of the original, it's been produced with a Mold and not with a 3D printer. 1x GEAR for 800K or 2M SONY FLOPPY DRIVE MP-F51W MP-F75W. To repair by substitution of the gear this little Engine is really easy, only 2 screws (+) and a plug to disassemble it from the...
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Japanese Gear: Tune-O-Gear, Set of 3 pcs, MIJ | infinityproductsA replacement second gear that can be used with Omron motors (see photos 2 and 3) for MP-F51W and MP-F75W. Set of 3 pcs, Made in Japan.Note: Cannot be used with SANWA motors (Make sure it is the same as the 4th pic).In the original, the grease stuck to the gear that became brittle due to...
[Image: www.infinityproducts.co.jp]
www.infinityproducts.co.jp
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splorp Tinkerer Calgary, Alberta -------- Joined: Oct 31, 2021 Posts: 167 Likes: 150 |
Dec 5, 2021 - #9
I love having all of these pointers to the various videos in one place.
Thanks, everyone. Super useful. Liked by AtariYinzer,Daniel HansenandJDW |
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Branchus Administrator -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 237 Likes: 518 |
Dec 5, 2021 - #10
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JDW Administrator Japan -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 2,534 Likes: 1,982 |
Dec 5, 2021 - #11
Here's a photo of the "black flap" manual inject drive from my Color Classic...
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AtariYinzer New Tinkerer Connellsville, PA -------- Joined: Nov 8, 2021 Posts: 15 Likes: 6 |
Dec 7, 2021 - #12
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Daniel Hansen Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 29, 2021 Posts: 181 Likes: 142 |
Dec 8, 2021 - #13
Ahhh... THAT SuperDrive.... Sorry about the confusion. The one you have there is, it looks like, the Mitsubishi MF355F, and - yup - repair / restoration procedures certainly appears to be a hole that needs to be filled. I've never taken one apart myself, haven't had the need. This is the only reference to service I've come across, but it doesn't say anything about disassembly: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...for-128k-512k-macintosh.2185992/post-27498424 Liked by AtariYinzerandfehervaria |
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AtariYinzer New Tinkerer Connellsville, PA -------- Joined: Nov 8, 2021 Posts: 15 Likes: 6 |
Dec 8, 2021 - #14
Yeah, the drive is working. I just wanted to take it apart, clean and lubricant it.
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fehervaria Tinkerer North Germany -------- Joined: Sep 23, 2021 Posts: 160 Likes: 171 |
Dec 8, 2021 - #15
and thanks for @desertrout for his research and for the MacRumors post. Liked by AtariYinzer |
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AtariYinzer New Tinkerer Connellsville, PA -------- Joined: Nov 8, 2021 Posts: 15 Likes: 6 |
Dec 8, 2021 - #16
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Daniel Hansen Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 29, 2021 Posts: 181 Likes: 142 |
Dec 8, 2021 - #17
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alxlab Active Tinkerer -------- Joined: Sep 23, 2021 Posts: 293 Likes: 323 |
Dec 9, 2021 - #18
Here's the gear @Stephen made
https://www.shapeways.com/product/8...ve-gear-x20?optionId=233884059&li=marketplace They are a lot cheaper than the Ebay ones. Some of the Ebay auctions are basically his model from Thingiverse sold at crazy prices. If you have an SLA printer you can print some yourself. |
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Stephen BetterBit San Francisco -------- Joined: Sep 5, 2021 Posts: 215 Likes: 264 |
Dec 9, 2021 - #19
Left is my design from Drake's 3D printer, right is the original Apple gear. The gears from Shapeways work just fine but they are not as high quality and will be noisier. This is a limitation of Shapeway's printing. I know the image quality isn't amazing. I was using my cheapie digital microscope but this should be enough to give a good indication of variations in print quality from different sources.
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Drake TinkerDifferent Board Vice-President 2023 -------- Joined: Sep 23, 2021 Posts: 449 Likes: 788 |
Dec 9, 2021 - #20
I also will send them freely to anyone that needs a couple, just pay postage ;) |
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