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Kai Robinson TinkerDifferent Board President 2023 Worthing, UK -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 1,322 Likes: 1,313 |
May 17, 2022 - #41
Eric Woo is the rose amongst the thorns - all legit pulls, never remarked! Liked by C128 Guy,Gazmassive,JDWand 2 others |
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Mr. Fahrenheit Tinkerer -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 141 Likes: 232 |
May 17, 2022 - #42
For reference:Mask revisions of the 68040 variantNote: The table only applies to the full 68040, there are other masks for the EC and LC variants!
Liked by -SE40-,bakkus,JDWand 1 other person |
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bakkus Moderator -------- Joined: Mar 18, 2022 Posts: 110 Likes: 75 |
May 18, 2022 - #43
Fantastic!
Could this table be placed as an article under Resources as well? |
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Mr. Fahrenheit Tinkerer -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 141 Likes: 232 |
May 18, 2022 - #44
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JDW Administrator Japan -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 2,534 Likes: 1,982 |
May 18, 2022 - #45
At some point, nobody will be able to acquire fast 40MHz rated 040 CPUs anymore, and we will need a modern replacement to enjoy overclocking. I've long read about the PiStorm project which replaces a 68000 CPU, but even to this day, it doesn't work in a Mac. But just imagine a full 68040 with FPU modern equivalent that could be overlocked to 50MHz and higher without any heatsink or fan. One can dream, right? [nerd-face] Liked by johnsnandGazmassive |
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Gazmassive New Tinkerer Melbourne, Australia -------- Joined: May 16, 2022 Posts: 4 Likes: 4 |
May 27, 2022 - #46
So the last Eric Woo chip has just arrived. I've attached photos of the altered chip and the new one. Also are both underneath shots.
The markings on the new chip are almost impossible to see, but its just only cleaned and not re-masked. I'm also not sure of what the H in the XC68040HRC40M is in reference to. If anybody has a some more tests besides MacBench to run, please let me know. Have a good one! PS (excuse the dirty hands, being a diesel mechanic has its downsides)
Liked by JDW |
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Mr. Fahrenheit Tinkerer -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 141 Likes: 232 |
May 28, 2022 - #47
I do not know how accurate that is. Liked by JDW |
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Kai Robinson TinkerDifferent Board President 2023 Worthing, UK -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 1,322 Likes: 1,313 |
Jun 3, 2022 - #48
Another good source of genuine pull 040's: https://www.ebay.com/itm/363493164879
Had good luck with them. K63H mask, too. Liked by YMK |
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JDW Administrator Japan -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 2,534 Likes: 1,982 |
Jun 4, 2022 - #49
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C128 Guy New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Aug 9, 2022 Posts: 12 Likes: 12 |
Aug 9, 2022 - #50
I've recently purchased a number of 040's and 060's from Ebay seller Eric Woo's Rare Chips. Had quite a few conversations with him as well about fake chips. He's been vey honest with me and everything is as promised. 6 chips total from there (2 x rev6 060).
Eric tells me there are ZERO legit L88M's @ 40mhz remaining anywhere in China unless more equipment with them gets scrapped. He confirmed any of the 40mhz chips listed currently are fake. MTXStore refunded 100% of my money instantly, they know what they are doing. It was my first 040 purchase I thought I would gamble on. Looked fake in the pics, was certainly fake when it arrived. I suspect it is a E31F, and will have it x-rayed soon to report back. Won't know what mhz it was rated for but at least can check the package. Liked by JDWandretr01 |
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Kai Robinson TinkerDifferent Board President 2023 Worthing, UK -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 1,322 Likes: 1,313 |
Aug 9, 2022 - #51
L88M's might be the pinnacle, but the K63H's are good - maybe he has some of them? Also E42K RC33's would be a decent buy. |
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C128 Guy New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Aug 9, 2022 Posts: 12 Likes: 12 |
Aug 9, 2022 - #52
He did have some L88M / 25 mhz.
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C128 Guy New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Aug 9, 2022 Posts: 12 Likes: 12 |
Aug 9, 2022 - #53
Think these are real?
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retr01 Senior Tinkerer Utah, USA -------- Joined: Jun 6, 2022 Posts: 2,474 Likes: 810 |
Aug 9, 2022 - #54
Nope. A glance at the seller's rating and the photo combined with my gut screams fakery. [face-with-monocle] Why would a 68040 look like this on the top? Very different from what I've seen on Mac mobos and accelerators.
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C128 Guy New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Aug 9, 2022 Posts: 12 Likes: 12 |
Aug 9, 2022 - #55
Who wants to gamble $100? :)
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Mr. Fahrenheit Tinkerer -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 141 Likes: 232 |
Aug 10, 2022 - #56
If it were $50, I would. $100 is a bit much for this in my opinion. Especially for an unknown. I think there's a danger that some of these remarking fraudsters could be reading up on what mistakes they're making with regards to the fakes, and remarking them to remove the errors they've had in the past. Although the danger of that on a 33mhz chip is likely lower than the unicorn 40mhz chips. The -101 matches the E42K and the date code of 1999 coincides with that mask and the style of print. I would say it's a toss up whether it's legitimate or not. However, who would have trays of pristine 68040 chips ready to sell from China? All identical.... [thinking] Liked by JDW |
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C128 Guy New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Aug 9, 2022 Posts: 12 Likes: 12 |
Aug 11, 2022 - #57
Eric Woo confirms no 33mhz chips left either. He's response was even 25mhz are getting rare now and he hasn't bought any in over a month. We are nearing the end guys....
Liked by Mr. FahrenheitandJDW |
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JDW Administrator Japan -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 2,534 Likes: 1,982 |
Aug 11, 2022 - #58
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Mr. Fahrenheit Tinkerer -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 141 Likes: 232 |
Aug 12, 2022 - #59
I wonder how many were bought up by Mac users, and how many were for Amigas. The 40mhz variant will likely be the rarest of all of the 68040 chips. Liked by JDW |
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C128 Guy New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Aug 9, 2022 Posts: 12 Likes: 12 |
Aug 15, 2022 - #60
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