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Jun 21, 2022 - #41
@-SE40- You could also hinge it at the front so it's kinda like a //c/Portable/PowerBook blend. There's also the hinge it on a half frame to flip it over either way in the middle trick. Might just work out if your controller had the right kind of cable or is thin enough to run just the VGA/HDMI and power to it in the lid

Hinge-n-swivel based on the simple, rugged OLPC XO-1 design would likely be the best.



You'd have to have a switch setup to run a macro for setting the display orientation. There's a control panel that does Portrait etc. for the main display of a Mac, not sure if it works on a Compact though. Arduino time if the controller can't be tweaked to do it on its own?
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Jun 21, 2022 - #42
>> Trash80toG4 said:
@-SE40- You could also hinge it at the front so it's kinda like a //c/Portable/PowerBook blend. There's also the hinge it on a half frame to flip it over either way in the middle trick. Might just work out if your controller had the right kind of cable or is thin enough to run just the VGA/HDMI and power to it in the lid Hinge-n-swivel based on the simple, rugged OLPC XO-1 design would likely be the best. Click to expand...
Good idea! The only drawback is how long will it last? I am confident that Apple considered or tested that hinge-n-swivel concept and decided against it due to its potential weak break point.

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Jun 22, 2022 - #43


I do not like hinges very much in this case.
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Jun 22, 2022 - #44
I am thinking about magnets......[robot-face]

As there is no specific detail Hartmut's design, its free to solve it in any way, aslong as the conceptmodel is followed. (Asfar as this is possible)

For the keyboard, @retr01 hack solution could work, an be most cost efficient.
I had the idea to reuse the Classic II keyboard.
Maybe both can be adapted to a similar size?

[four-leaf-clover]

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Jun 22, 2022 - #45
@retr01 ....
As for using a touch screen and a SE 30 board......
I dont think thats an option in this design.

But its a great idea for a new topic.....project:

The first Ipad

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Jun 22, 2022 - #46
>> -SE40- said:
View attachment 5839 I do not like hinges very much in this case. Click to expand...
So true. Keep it Simple. It's also a Jobsian thing. (y):cool:

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Jun 22, 2022 - #47
>> -SE40- said:
The first Ipad Click to expand...
Nah. It's not an iPad. I'd stay away from what is "Reserved." How about:

030Pad

68kPad

Pad30

Slim68k

Slim30


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Jun 22, 2022 - #48
>> -SE40- said:
I am thinking about magnets...... Click to expand...
It is possible to use magnets. [face-with-monocle] Check out those DIY magnetic connectors.

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Jun 22, 2022 - #49
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Jun 22, 2022 - #50

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Jun 22, 2022 - #51
As for the magnets, these can be really powerfull ....just finding a way to decently apply these.

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Jun 22, 2022 - #52
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Jun 22, 2022 - #53
>> -SE40- said:
As for the magnets, these can be really powerfull ....just finding a way to decently apply these. Click to expand...
Not those connectors. Those are the same type as those featured on MacBooks for power connectors. Apple will bring it back in the next version of MacBooks. So, those are relatively safe.

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Jun 22, 2022 - #54
>> -SE40- said:
View attachment 5839 I do not like hinges very much in this case. Click to expand...
KISS principle adherence is a lofty goal. However frog's design shows the LCD to be a discrete assy that may well have been intended to be hinged at the front, else ergonomic design principles would have been thrown "inside the box," which doesn't sound like a Hartmut kinda thing. ;)

Printing those angled keycaps as covers for adhering to the likes of the $18 wireless USB Dongled KBD Mouse combos I've got on the bench ATM should be no big deal.

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Jun 22, 2022 - #55
Cool @Trash80toG4! :D (y)

Can you take a picture and show us, please?

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Jun 22, 2022 - #56
I think that at Frog design-Apple(?), they where playing around with this concept and other ideas to create a vision for the future.
Nothing has been carved in stone at that point of time.

The question in the end is if we can make it work, with the insight of today.

The black version version has regular,
more common keys BTW....

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Jun 22, 2022 - #57
>> -SE40- said:
I think that at Frog design-Apple(?), they where playing around with this concept and other ideas to create a vision for the future. Nothing has been carved in stone at that point of time. The question in the end is if we can make it work, with the insight of today. The black version version has regular, more common keys BTW.... Click to expand...
Yeah, Apple designed many concepts and developed some ideas into prototypes that very few made to production for the market. Hartmut discussed in an article and gave some examples:

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Jun 22, 2022 - #58
>> retr01 said:
Cool @Trash80toG4 ! Can you take a picture and show us, please? Click to expand...
Not unless @-SE40- asks, that's tangential I think for now. It's in the procedd and being documented for a project I've collecting materials for and whittling away at since @nanoraptor first did the vHack.

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Jun 22, 2022 - #59
Good info!

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Jun 22, 2022 - #60
whats the v-Hack?

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