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JustG New Tinkerer California -------- Joined: Dec 12, 2021 Posts: 62 Likes: 16 |
Jun 9, 2022 - #1
With all of the amazing projects that have come out over the past few years for our old computers, has anyone considered or is there any effort to recreate the Spectre GCR cartridge? As Mac collector and now a ST owner, this is something that interests me:
Spectre GCR - Wikipedia
[Image: en.wikipedia.org]
en.wikipedia.org
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Kai Robinson TinkerDifferent Board President 2023 Worthing, UK -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 1,322 Likes: 1,313 |
Jun 9, 2022 - #2
Well, i've never seen the hardware in real life - but looking at this image, the layout looks simple - the question is, what's on the PAL (there's at least 1 there) and what are the other chips?
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JustG New Tinkerer California -------- Joined: Dec 12, 2021 Posts: 62 Likes: 16 |
Jun 9, 2022 - #3
I'm now on a mission to find one of these. If I end up with one in my hands it's going to be sent to the right people.
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mg.man Tinkerer Ardley, UK -------- Joined: Oct 20, 2021 Posts: 133 Likes: 69 |
Jun 10, 2022 - #4
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max1zzz Moderator -------- Joined: Sep 23, 2021 Posts: 269 Likes: 673 |
Jun 10, 2022 - #5
Edit: Looking at the pictures I would guess U8 is the only PAL on there, looking very closely at the picture @Kai Robinson posted I *Think* its marked as a TIBPAL16R4 so hopefully this is unprotected otherwise the equations would need to be recreated by hand |
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mg.man Tinkerer Ardley, UK -------- Joined: Oct 20, 2021 Posts: 133 Likes: 69 |
Jun 10, 2022 - #6
There does seem to some trace of the original silkscreen on a few of the chips, hence all the different angles. |
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tomswork New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 25, 2021 Posts: 9 Likes: 4 |
Jun 21, 2022 - #7
This is the schematics for the gcr let me know if anyone has a the pal code
Tom
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Kai Robinson TinkerDifferent Board President 2023 Worthing, UK -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 1,322 Likes: 1,313 |
Jun 21, 2022 - #8
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Bolle Tinkerer -------- Joined: Nov 1, 2021 Posts: 55 Likes: 95 |
Jun 22, 2022 - #9
Worth a try, I've got an old programmer that still does all sorts of PALs. If we get one of those thingies my way I can give it a try (and take a look at manually recreating some code if it's locked)
Unless porchy wants to take a look, figured that might be easier from a shipping point of view. |
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Nervebreaker New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Jul 11, 2022 Posts: 1 Likes: 1 |
Jul 11, 2022 - #10
I'm trying to price mine for sale. I won mine by guessing the birthdate of his son but also was a Magic Sac user. I spent a drinking evening with David Small after our mutual friends vouched for me. Lots of hacking stories exchanged
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Javmast3r Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 27, 2021 Posts: 70 Likes: 63 |
Oct 20, 2022 - #11
Somebody reversed the Magic Sac:
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Javmast3r Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 27, 2021 Posts: 70 Likes: 63 |
Oct 21, 2022 - #12
We could use the one I linked, they have all the files and gerbers. I could do the 3D case.
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JustG New Tinkerer California -------- Joined: Dec 12, 2021 Posts: 62 Likes: 16 |
Nov 21, 2022 - #13
I've got very little experience when it comes to ordering boards. I'm very interested in putting one of these together but I'd really need someone to hold my hand through the order process.
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Javmast3r Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 27, 2021 Posts: 70 Likes: 63 |
Nov 22, 2022 - #14
I may have the pieces to do one or two kits
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tomswork New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 25, 2021 Posts: 9 Likes: 4 |
May 23, 2023 - #15
Hello Javier I can't follow the link were you able to download the bom and gerber for the magicsac
Tom |
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Javmast3r Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 27, 2021 Posts: 70 Likes: 63 |
May 23, 2023 - #16
Yes, I made some, still have to burn the ROMS...
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tomswork New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 25, 2021 Posts: 9 Likes: 4 |
May 23, 2023 - #17
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tomswork New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 25, 2021 Posts: 9 Likes: 4 |
May 23, 2023 - #18
Did some research and it looks like the magic sac uses the macintosh 128k roms so they are 32k by 8 27c256 should work fine now to split a file
Tom |
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JustG New Tinkerer California -------- Joined: Dec 12, 2021 Posts: 62 Likes: 16 |
May 23, 2023 - #19
Still very much interested and tracking this. Glad to see it getting some traction!
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tomswork New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 25, 2021 Posts: 9 Likes: 4 |
May 23, 2023 - #20
This is a schematic for the magic sac it has address lines at thru a14 so it supports 32k by 8 or 27256. Mac 128k or maybe mack 512k roms the parts are all common
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