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PotatoFi Active Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 18, 2021 Posts: 181 Likes: 372 |
Nov 14, 2021 - #41
We're just about done here. After installing the BlueSCSI, I flipped the power switch, and the machine booted right up to System 6.0.8. Fantastic.
The CRT was positioned slightly too far to one side, so I used a plastic spudger to rotate one of the centering rings. With that, the restoration was done.
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PotatoFi Active Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 18, 2021 Posts: 181 Likes: 372 |
Nov 14, 2021 - #42
Let's take a look at the results!
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PotatoFi Active Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 18, 2021 Posts: 181 Likes: 372 |
Nov 14, 2021 - #43
Up until now, I hadn't thought to see how much RAM it has. It appears to have 2 MB. In this configuration, System 6.0.8 will be super snappy, and it will work great for some black-and-white Mac gaming. If someone wanted to upgrade it to 4 MB, and plug in a RaSCSI for SCSI Ethernet emulation, you could probably download some files with FTP, or even do some Telnet! Technically, you could load up a webpage or two... but with System 6 and a 4 MB RAM ceiling, that is extremely challenging.
Yes, there's some burn-in... but I don't think it's very distracting. This is max brightness in a well-lit room - not super bright, but really no brighter than I go on my other machines. Here's a close-up of the burn-in (cc: @This Does Not Compute). If anyone has any ideas what this is from, I'd love to hear them! It almost looks like a CNC application or something to me, but I can't quite read any of it. And I think this is where our restoration thread draws to a close! As for the machine's future - I'm going to offer it back to the person who gave me the whole pile of Apple stuff to begin with (although I would need to track down a mouse and keyboard for it). The floppy drive still isn't super reliable, so I might tinker with that a little bit more. For now, thanks for reading my restoration thread! I hope you enjoyed it.
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RetroViator Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 30, 2021 Posts: 89 Likes: 110 |
Nov 15, 2021 - #44
What an amazing restoration! Great job and thanks for letting us follow along. :)
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landogriffin Tinkerer Iowa -------- Joined: Sep 23, 2021 Posts: 42 Likes: 44 |
Nov 15, 2021 - #45
Great job @PotatoFi !!!
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svenvendetta Tinkerer Boston, MA -------- Joined: Nov 3, 2021 Posts: 39 Likes: 54 |
Nov 16, 2021 - #46
Amazing work. Makes me want to take another stab at my SE board that wasn't even close to as bad as where you started with this one!
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splorp Tinkerer Calgary, Alberta -------- Joined: Oct 31, 2021 Posts: 170 Likes: 154 |
Nov 16, 2021 - #47
Following this entire thread, I have been impressed by your perseverance to see this project through. A lesser man (perhaps myself) would have thrown in the towel ages ago.
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Cameron_Talley New Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 31, 2021 Posts: 8 Likes: 8 |
Nov 16, 2021 - #48
Wow the before and after is like night and day!
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PotatoFi Active Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 18, 2021 Posts: 181 Likes: 372 |
Nov 22, 2021 - #49
Thanks for following along!
Thanks!
You should! After seeing this, and fixing a battery-bombed SE SuperDrive for a friend, I'm convinced that the SE's logic board is as tough as they get.
Thank you!
Right!? I love the before and after shots! You might remember from earlier that this machine came equipped with 2 MB of RAM. On seeing that, @rdmark donated a 4 MB RAM upgrade for the machine! Of course, I took a photo of the wrong side of the new modules - they all have a super cool Motorola logo on the back. I scrubbed all of the contacts with Isopropyl alcohol, and installed them in the machine. The tabs on the slots are all plastic, and one is broken, so I really wanted to only install the RAM once time to avoid breaking things. As for telling the Mac how much RAM to look for, this Macintosh SE FDHD is of the jumper variety. There is a 1 MB position, and a 2/4 MB position. Some Mac SE's (probably older non-SuperDrive and non-FDHD versions) use resistors that you have to remove. When I booted it up, I was very confused to find that only 2 MB of RAM was detected. I consulted the Low End Mac Macintosh SE RAM Upgrade guide, and immediately found my mistake.
Of course, removing the jumper entirely did the trick: And with that nice RAM upgrade, this Macintosh SE FDHD is "maxed out"! Sure, I could find a Shiva Ethernet PDS card for it, or one of those neat accellerator PDS cards, or maybe even install a RaSCSI! But with a 1.4 MB floppy drive, solid-state storage with the BlueSCSI, and 4 MB of RAM, this little Macintosh SE has become quite the capable little machine. Thanks again to @rdmark for the upgrade!
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PotatoFi Active Tinkerer -------- Joined: Oct 18, 2021 Posts: 181 Likes: 372 |
Nov 22, 2021 - #50
There is one little thing left to do on the machine: the lower two screws for the case (that go into the back of the case, through the shield on the logic board, and into the chassis) were in pretty bad shape. I am pretty sure that I discarded them. If anyone knows what size they are, please let me know - I'd like to replace them with something new (even if they're just Phillips head screws).
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jimmy New Tinkerer Dubai [regional-indicator-s] -------- Joined: Oct 30, 2021 Posts: 2 Likes: 14 |
Nov 22, 2021 - #51
Wow, amazing restoration!
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rdmark Moderator -------- Joined: Oct 3, 2021 Posts: 196 Likes: 260 |
Nov 22, 2021 - #52
Liked by Patrick,PotatoFi,svenvendettaand 1 other person |
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Ubik Tinkerer Orange County, CA -------- Joined: Nov 2, 2021 Posts: 63 Likes: 81 |
Nov 23, 2021 - #53
You sir . . . are a Tinkering Hero! It' s great how your family is involved. These are wonderful lessons for them.
Liked by PotatoFi |
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Powerbook97 New Tinkerer -------- Joined: May 21, 2022 Posts: 9 Likes: 6 |
May 21, 2022 - #54
Starting this journey myself ... however my board was a little rougher ...... hoping to move all functioning parts to a new board and possibly bringing this beautiful piece of computing back to life .
Liked by RetroTechTom,tmtrains,alxlaband 1 other person |
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Kai Robinson TinkerDifferent Board President 2023 Worthing, UK -------- Joined: Sep 2, 2021 Posts: 1,322 Likes: 1,313 |
May 21, 2022 - #55
...ouch! That is well and truly destroyed! I hope the Sony sound chip is salvageable from there. You'll need to source one of the serial chips as new old stock if the legs have been eaten away, but at least everything else looks to have been spared!
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Powerbook97 New Tinkerer -------- Joined: May 21, 2022 Posts: 9 Likes: 6 |
May 23, 2022 - #56
You know I am biased as many here are too - I love the old computers - I do .... I do think Apple's latest MacBooks are the best the company has made in a long time - maybe they are too perfect / so one can't tinker ;)
'Having said that I am sure there are 50-150 ( if not thousand ) people out there if not more who wish to revive their memories through these lovely designs so ..... is there no way to put all this knowledge together and make a run of re created completed boards/re born boards ( almost completed - except the very rare chips ) by a third party in a land far away so it may also be cheaper ??? Yes it won't be cheap - neither is a 're-imagined" old Porsche for example .... But then one can resurrect in higher numbers and reach out to those who may not have the talents needed to get there ...... Are these boards and designs copy righted -- would one be allowed to produce them in high numbers ? Just a thought ....... :) |
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Mac84 Administrator New Jersey, USA -------- Joined: Sep 4, 2021 Posts: 306 Likes: 431 |
May 23, 2022 - #57
Liked by Powerbook97 |
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pocketscience Tinkerer Sydney, Australia -------- Joined: Apr 29, 2022 Posts: 261 Likes: 185 |
May 24, 2022 - #58
Liked by Mac84andPowerbook97 |
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Powerbook97 New Tinkerer -------- Joined: May 21, 2022 Posts: 9 Likes: 6 |
May 24, 2022 - #59
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pocketscience Tinkerer Sydney, Australia -------- Joined: Apr 29, 2022 Posts: 261 Likes: 185 |
May 24, 2022 - #60
Send the gerbers to JLCPCB et voila!
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