Apple Network Server MacOS based ROMs found

@joevt ,

First I have seen the same notes that state that the ANS won't boot from the internal fast and wide SCSI buss & that for MacOS on ANS requires a PCI video card. Neither is true on my Shiner. It only has the built-in video and 5 9GB drives + ANS CD drive. Also I have a IOGear USB PCI card that I used to backup the RAID array to a USB SSD drive, I used the MacOS SoftRAID to turn the 5 drives into a RAID 5 setup. I have not done anything more than boot the MacOS 9 install from CD. I need to run thru the entire install process to verify that on the Deep Dish with the MacOS ROM everything works end to end. I also can't verify that the system/CPU boards are GM and not EVT.

I also have a PowerMac 9600/200 MP if that can be use to flash the ROM is necessary. I also purchased a parts only TNT 7500 system boards so if a ROM SIMM socket is needed I have one that I can easily remove from the board.

I should add your DingusPPC to my things todo, that list is getting very crowded.
Is there documentation that will help?

adios,
jt

>> johntucker said:

Is there documentation that will help? Click to expand...

The GitHub points to a wiki and a Discord. We can answer all questions in the Discord. DingusPPC is a work in progress so lots of stuff doesn't work (networking) and there may be issues with audio or other emulation in certain areas. For example, SCSI works in classic Mac OS but might not work completely in Open Firmware or other OSes).

>> johntucker said:

First I have seen the same notes that state that the ANS won't boot from the internal fast and wide SCSI buss & that for MacOS on ANS requires a PCI video card. Neither is true on my Shiner Click to expand...

Hopefully I don't need to add emulation for the built-in video (device name 54m30, model STB,HORIZON+, compatible pci1013,a0). It may be easier to do that than to add emulation for the fast/wide SCSI though.

Mac OS needs an ndrv to use the built-in video. It appears to be included in the ANS 2.0 ROM but not any of the other ROMs. The name of the driver is .Display_Video_Cirrus_54M30. If anyone without the ANS 2.0 ROM were able to boot Mac OS (via a nvramrc script?), then they would need to use a PCI graphics card, or they would need to copy the ndrv into the System file or they would need to replace the ROM.

ROM 2.0 also seems to have an ndrv for the fast wide SCSI (name apple53C8xx (53c875 in other ANS ROMs), model NCR,825A, compatible 53c875 (pci1000,3 in other ANS ROMs). I think the driver name is .MBscsi. I guess one might need to change the name from 53c825 to apple53C8xx in there ROM versions. This device and a corresponding ndrv also exists in the Power Mac 9700 ROM. I don't think this would be bootable unless the ndrv is in the ROM?

I've been working with the 1.1.22 ROM so far in DingusPPC.

The STB Horizon+ is a generic Cirrus Logic CL-GD5430 based card. That happens to be the same chipset hypervisors like QEMU have support for.

There's a Mac OS X driver for the apple53C8xx

"IONameMatch"=("apple53C8xx","Apple53C875Card","ATTO,ExpressPCIProLVD","ATTO,ExpressPCIProUL2D","ATTO,ExpressPCIProUL3D"),
"CFBundleIdentifier"="com.apple.driver.AppleSym8xx",
"IOClass"="Sym8xxSCSIController",
"IOProviderClass"="IOPCIDevice"

For the built-in video, the ndrv would need to be moved to a file for Mac OS X to use since I don't think Mac OS X will read it from ROM. For ANS servers with ROM 2.0, a simple Open Firmware command should be able to copy the ndrv from ROM to an Open Firmware property.

Anyone with a serial connection to Open Firmware able to get PCI info using #50 ?
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ddwv...ey=rujv8sbhb8v4ehk9b845bd3k1&st=qwg4xfv2&dl=0

Another method to paste scripts into Open Firmware quickly (avoids requiring slowing down terminal text pacing and also avoids Open Firmware echoing of the input text) is to use the dl command at the Open Firmware prompt. Place a Control-D character at the end of the Open Firmware script that you are pasting. When dl sees the Control-D character, it will execute the script.

In the below example, I pasted the contents of lspci for Open Firmware 60.txt after typing dl and pressing return. The txt file contains the Control-D character at the end to signal the end of the file to dl.

0 > unselect-dev  ok
0 > dl  ok
0 > dev pci1  ok
0 > lspci
00:0B.0         [106B:0001] [060000] 6B10010016000000030000060820000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000C000001000000000700000000000000080000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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
                                     00007810:81000000.FF000000
                                     00007814:00000401.FFFFFF01
                                     00007830:82000000.FFFF0001
00:10.0         [106B:0002] [FF0000] 6B10020016000002020000FF08200000000000F30000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                                     00008010:F3000000.FFFE0000
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
                                     00008810:00000801.FFFFFF01
                                     00008814:F3100000.FFFFFF00
                                     00008818:F3101000.FFFFF000
00:12.0         [1000:0003] [010000] 00100300160030021100000108200000010C0000003010F3004010F300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000E0108400100027E000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000019330003E420000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                                     00009010:00000C01.FFFFFF01
                                     00009014:F3103000.FFFFFF00
                                     00009018:F3104000.FFFFF000
 ok
0 > dev pci2  ok
0 > lspci
01:0B.0         [106B:0001] [060000] 6B100100160000000300000608200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000030000002000000000B00000000000000080000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
 ok

While you're in there, also get output from

dev / ls
devalias
dump-device-tree

Hope you're hungry. Here is the output from this 200MHz ANS 500 with production ROMs and the 10/100 Ethernet card option.

>> ClassicHasClass said:

Here is the output from this 200MHz ANS 500 with production ROMs and the 10/100 Ethernet card option. Click to expand...

Thanks for that. I've attached the result of parsing that dump with my parseOFlspci command (included in the "lspci for Open Firmware.zip") which uses lspci.

I welcome dumps from any Power Mac or ANS that has different results.

Does AIX have pciutils with lspci? I suppose someone could port pciutils to Mac OS 9 either as MPW tools or as SIOUX apps.

Using ANS ROM 2.0 to boot Mac OS is discussed at
https://68kmla.org/bb/index.php?threads/mac-os-on-ans-modding-a-rom-dimm.51120
A ROM SIMM from a Power Mac 7100 is used.

Good to see someone has confirmed booting and demonstrated how to wire it up with NOS chips. I've got a spare ANS ROM here I can sacrifice if someone is willing to build it (would pay for it). Regrettably I'm poor at SMT soldering.