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JDW
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Nov 30, 2024 - #81
I have to admit, I got burned out after my earlier failure with something that was supposed to work but didn't. I'll probably give it another shot when at least two or three more people have used the same method (either that from @Scorpio_ny or that from @jasperman . Right now, the stock spinner drive in one of my Cubes is still working. The other is dead and so I can't use that other Cube as a result, but that's OK for now. The OWC looks like the most appealing solution to my eyes, but my experience with past OWC SSD purchases have been mixed, which is why I'd like to see a few other Cube owners give it a shot and report their experiences.

I am happy to see these solutions being explored though. The Cube is one of the best PPC machines, in my opinion due to the great industrial design. Both of my Cubes are accelerated, making them very usable with software made for the G4 chip.

Francois
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Nov 30, 2024 - #82
Or just buy an IDE SSD, they're expensive, but maybe less than trying a whole bunch of adapters?

jasperman
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Nov 30, 2024 - #83
>> Francois said:
Or just buy an IDE SSD, they're expensive, but maybe less than trying a whole bunch of adapters? Click to expand...
Do you have a suggestion that is known to work? My #8 item is a 2.5" IDE to MSATA enclosure so nearly the same as an IDE SSD I would think. And for some unexplained reason it blocks access to the DVD-ROM.

i don't believe there are any 3.5" IDE SSDs(???) so you will need a 3.5 to 2.5 adapter along with the 2.5 IDE.

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phunguss
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Nov 30, 2024 - #84
>> jasperman said:
(6+7+9) This works and master/slave jumper does change the device number in "About This Mac" and "More Info..." and the ATA section. But oops, the DVD-ROM does not work in any mode. Click to expand...
Did you try changing the optical drive from Master/Slave as well?

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Nov 30, 2024 - #85
>> phunguss said:
Did you try changing the optical drive from Master/Slave as well? Click to expand...
Yes. 9 in master and DVD in slave - DVD does not show up. 9 in slave and DVD in master - DVD does not show up. I verified that the master/slave pin on the 9 enclosure does change it's device ID in "More Info" but somehow blocks access to the DVD which is weird.

phunguss
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Nov 30, 2024 - #86
>> jasperman said:
Yes. 9 in master and DVD in slave - DVD does not show up. 9 in slave and DVD in master - DVD does not show up. I verified that the master/slave pin on the 9 enclosure does change it's device ID in "More Info" but somehow blocks access to the DVD which is weird. Click to expand...
I think there is something funky with the Cube DVDs, because as soon as I removed it and replaced it with another apple slot load (slim drive), the master slave issues went away for me.

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Nov 30, 2024 - #87
>> phunguss said:
I think there is something funky with the Cube DVDs, because as soon as I removed it and replaced it with another apple slot load (slim drive), the master slave issues went away for me. Click to expand...
A mystery! What adapter(s) are you using and what exact DVD drive did you replace it with?

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Nov 30, 2024 - #88
>> jasperman said:
A mystery! What adapter(s) are you using and what exact DVD drive did you replace it with? Click to expand...
Refer back to post #78 to see how I twisted the power cable 180 for the SSD adapter. Not wanting to pull it out right now, so this is the best shot I have, but looks like your #4+7+9 (power cable upside down).


Looks like I used #10 for the optical drive plus an additional cable to convert the 7+15pin to 7+6pin Sata+Power.




Slot load SATA dvd from an old iMac (unknown model).


It is likely you could use an older slot load optical drive that has the ATAPI connector and find an IDE adapter with a master/slave jumper. This one does not have a master/slave jumper.
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indibil
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Aug 6, 2025 - #89
Hi, I found this forum thanks to @JDW.

You've already provided many solutions, but I'll briefly share my experience. I have SSDs in all my G3 and G4 Macs, and I've used these adapters, all with JMicron. I've only had some incompatibility with the SATA or mSATA HDD used, but using another brand has worked for me.

For 3.5" I use this one:
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/2055...st_main.5.2e23194dH05Beq&gatewayAdapt=glo2esp

And for 2.5" this one:
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005...t_main.31.2e23194dH05Beq&gatewayAdapt=glo2esp

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005...t_main.86.2e23194dH05Beq&gatewayAdapt=glo2esp

They work on Pismo, Lombard, and Mac Mini G4. The 3.5" one also works for me on the Cube.

Just a detail: this happens to me on all Macs that share an ATA connector and use Master/Slave. OSX Sorbet Leopard works without problems, but OS9 struggles to recognize the first partition, but it boots. First, the floppy disk appears, but after a few seconds, OS9 boots. This doesn't happen if there's no Master/Slave.

I hope this helps.

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